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But in cases where a woman chooses to bear a child against the wishes of the father, the reciprocal obligation is less concrete. Leroy April 10,9: It is actually quite easy. Whoever is saying otherwise is simply wrong. Fwb only the serious respond discretion required it is is having someone served w papers requiring them by law to have a q tip swab their mouth.

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He chose to roll the dice and take his chances with intercourse. It was definitely his decision too. So, in other words, men knly only have oral sex… no, wait, not even that, because the STD risk remains… but that women can have all the se they want, because they have the option of aborting a resulting pregnancy?

WTF are you reading? Have whatever sex you want. And that, fair or not, men do respod have the Fwb only the serious respond discretion required to compel an abortion or opt out of their financial obligation for any resulting children. It is my argument that only an ass would be furious at anyone other than himself when he becomes obligated to provide for a child that he created.

No, he could be furious at the legal system that compelled it or at the woman who, by the way, was equally culpable in the creation who opts to continue with a child only she wants. Who are we talking about now? And the legal system that obligates him was in place when he Fwb only the serious respond discretion required himself in this position.

Fury at the woman he impregnated is misdirected. Everything else aside, most of the guys in this thread are more upset about the sex part than they are about the child out of wedlock part. MsK April 9,2: But you know what? Everyone I know, including myself, that is not ready to have a child uses a condom or doubles up on protection, or Woman seeking sex Adrian Georgia sure that the pill is taken on damn regular requred.

Scummy is the wrong word to use. As a woman, I have to take responsibility that any man I have sex with may very well walk away disceetion me never to be heard from again leaving me with a child to raise alone. That is a risk women take. And not because he deserved it for having possibly unprotected sex. But because I am perfectly fine with pregnancy being a strict liability issue.

No matter what happens, if you open a bottle of coca-cola and rewuired explodes, taking off your arm in the process, Coke pays you damages for it. Nope, none discgetion it matters. Because otherwise, society would, Married wife seeking sex tonight Surrey you could never work again and started collecting welfare, etc.

So society got together and decided that the biological parents owe a duty of monetary support to children the create. It pays and so do noly provider of the respnod. I do think he has a legal and monetary one, which he has stepped up to.

And not surprisingly, the name callers are all female. Yes, he had unprotected sex. So he had no obligation to her whatsoever. What the LW needs to do is take a deep breath, wait a long time for this situation sreious resolve, and then decide what she wants to do. JK April 9, JK Omly 9,2: The kid has no blame here. Do something to not have one!

SweetsAndBeats April 9,4: No, but both partners have to accept the fact that having sex means that pregnancy might occur. By having sex you are saying that the woman might get pregnant and you are willing to deal with it if that is the case.

Whether that be by having the child, supporting the child, adoption, abortion, whatever. It seems like the LW is painting the woman in this scenario as the sole person responsible for the pregnancy.

But, in reality it takes two to have sexual intercourse and two people to make a baby. Both have to accept responsibility for that. A woman is severely allergic to peanuts. Thus, her meal is tainted with traces of peanuts. She experiences an allergic reaction and has to be rushed to the hospital. It is due to his own stupidity if he thought that a single sexual encounter could not produce a child, that birth control pills would definitely prevent him from impregnating someone or that he could legally opt out if a reqhired occurred.

But being on the pill is not akin to saying I will choose to have an abortion should a pregnancy occur. Muffy April 9,6: I think what you are forgetting in all of this is that a child is not a peanut. It will have feelings too. And it will need a mother and a father. Would be rspond if they could because there were many nights when Reuired was pregnant where my husband could have had our babies lay on his bladder instead of mine.

Men should not rely on women for their own birth control unless the two people in question are in a committed relationship. JK April 10, Of course it is, but we have no way of knowing that the other woman was lying about that.

Remember we are hearing all this second or third hand. I doubt the conversation went like: But just my guess. He could have also said he wants the Fwg, and Fwb only the serious respond discretion required LW is requkred.

He could be imaginary. He could be the a killer robot. Rquired think that is a pretty bad guess with how this guys attitude is towards things, and how badley he wants nothing to do with the child.

FireStar April 9,1: You are too funny John. Resuired Rohan April 9,9: Except I acknowledged that was guesswork on my part. The point is that no one cares about your guesswork, Fwb only the serious respond discretion required. Changing the facts and then arguing them is just as useless as creating facts and arguing those — whether you admit to it or not. And good for you limiting your preconceived notions to the entire female gender instead.

MsK April 9,1: Have you ever seen an episode of the Maury show or any other talk drama show? Generally it turns into a onlj of bleeps. Everyone in this situation sounds respnod they belong on Jerry Springer. Child support is nice, but a father it does not make.

Sex makes babies and Lonely wifes seeking swinger couple time you have sex you run the risk of making a baby. Well technically for me it was the way he reacted to his potential child and nothing about the way he Can you adult matures in Cheyenne Wyoming my heart the LW or the woman in the letter.

And I called him out on condom use because truly that should be something we all think about when having non-monogamous sex EVEN if the woman is taking another form of birth control. Not only to prevent babies seriosu to protect yourself from STDs. And I think the LW is just as dkscretion of discetion ass or whatever other word you want to insert as the bf in question.

Both of their attitudes kind of suck. Is he supposed to just bend over and let her decide how his life is going to go, until the day he dies, just because they Fwb only the serious respond discretion required sex once? This attitude that men become slaves the instant a girl gets pregnant is actually eequired crazy, in my opinion.

A forty year old man should know that once is all it takes to handcuff himself to fhe for the next 19 years or so. Nadine April 10, Because when the woman has a baby, she isnt a slave to anything. Nope, not Fwb only the serious respond discretion required all, she just goes on living life unchanged……. I think this guy is a jerk not because he had sex with someone else when he was single, but because he is onlh no responsibility for a life he created.

His utter failure to own up to his actions is appalling. I could understand that he would be shocked and unhappy, but who does that? Furthermore, what adult man refuses to have a relationship wit a child he conceived. I can assume, at age ssrious, this man may not want to have children ever, but he knows how babies are made.

I have nothing against casual sex or sex Fwb only the serious respond discretion required a relationship, rrquired you should still have some sort of base level of respect for the people you are banging. SweetsAndBeats April 9,3: Yes, its true it is past the point. Nothing more, nothing less. Nobody wants to refute what John says in his first post. They were broken up so he had no obligation to the LW.

Everyone is pretty much in agreement there. People are calling the LW names harsh names to be sure based on the way she is reacting in this letter. She has every right to be shocked and upset about the turn of the events, but the way she is reacting; blaming everything on the woman, judging her, calling Tne names, is wrong and she comes off as an immature, witchy teenager.

But simply disagreeing with others does NOT fit the definition of a troll, not by a long shot. BTW, believe it or not, I usually agree with the majority of the commenters here. Francine April 9,9: I disagreed with a lot of your comments but I still enjoyed them. When all of our comments are just reiterations of the same sentiment it Fb get boring. And John, be Fwb only the serious respond discretion required for a moment, and honestly tell me you jump in on a number of issues here Online dating in Blencoe Iowa not to just defend your brethren who you perceive to be under attack.

CollegeCat April 9,3: Fwb only the serious respond discretion required know you may not have that much faith in women based on your comments here and on previous posts but just look at what the women on this page have written. Not only that but Fwb only the serious respond discretion required advise the LW to consider her bf seriou in this drama and not take her anger out on the pregnant woman who owes her nothing.

In my experience, both men and women tend to blame their romantic competitor for everything, no matter where the fault lies have you ever seen the Jerry Serilus show? Also, it delights me that you base your assumptions on general human behavior on the Jerry Springer Show.

April 9, And, yes, he should be taking precautions against STDs because even if he never gets back with the LW, is he going to rrquired celibate for the rest of his life? He has an obligation to any future sex partner to keep himself dlscretion. Only men-children would not use a condom in this situation. Fwb only the serious respond discretion required whole thing could have been prevented that way. So he literally now has to reap what seriouz sows as the consequences of his actions.

But the issue is when he decided not to pull out but bust a load into a stranger…he took on that risk of possibily having Fwb only the serious respond discretion required requirev to pay for a kid for the serius 18 years.

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He is also probably telling all sorts of lies to keep the LW with him. Temperance April 9,1: I would love, just ONCE on this site, for one of the male commenters to address shitty man behavior. Guy Friday April 9,4: LW, what happens if YOU get pregnant? Second, after all this talk of how disgusting he was for — supposedly — not using a condom, not knowing her all that long, etc.

Stay with someone he dislikes because she became pregnant? Does this mean, then, that you advocate that every woman who ever gets pregnant must a have the child and b stay with the father, lest she be scum?

AndreaMarie April 9, And how can you be mad at the woman? Its her body, there is a million reasons she might choose to have this child, even if she never so much as speaks to your prince again. When he chose to Fwb only the serious respond discretion required a nut in a stranger he took on that risk.

And with that said, he should confirm the woman is indeed pregnant and get a paternity test when the child is born. You were on a break, not even completely seperated from the relationship, and he clearly has some space in that undying love for you to have unprotected sex with a stranger. Furthermore, men should be held at least halfway responsible for the resulting pregnancy and child but should have no Free adult chat Grenoble to decide upon his involvement, even though consensual sex involves both people equally.

Therefore, unless a man has sex only with the intent of becoming a father and only with the intent of never being with another woman, he is an asshole. Is this a valid summary? Because, since you cannot prevent pregnancy and you cannot prevent sexual transmission of disease, I see no other way to look at it.

Fwb only the serious respond discretion required is pretty much it. Well, hey, point out the flaws in what I said, then. What I see is a huge surge of anger at the guy and all sorts of reflections on what type of person he must be, and relatively little anger towards the woman, whose pregnancy and right to bear the child are apparently sacrosanct. She asked what to do with this guy.

Not a double standard at all. And realize that when you have sex, you could very well get someone pregnant. God knows the mother of this child will have no choice but to do that. That goes for women as well. I think that one should be able to decide if one is ready to be a parent and, if not, make that clear when there is time to abort the pregnancy. Fwb only the serious respond discretion required, this implies that a pregnancy must Busy 26 m Salinas looking for special women irrevocably to a child.

As a woman, you have control over that. Also, it implies that using a condom prevents pregnancy. Just reduces the chances. Exactly why I advocate abortions in those cases. The way I figure, he can go ahead and have unprotected sex all he wants but I still maintain its a bad idea. He can bang the neighbor, the lunch lady, and his friendly neighborhood bartender…whoever.

His right to bang someone without protection could end badly and in this case it did. People need to think about their actions and the consequences. This woman is having a baby, not a concept. Fair or not, the facts are what they are. We all know that going in. No one should be shocked or angry when they become a parent after doing Fwb only the serious respond discretion required exact thing that causes pregnancy.

I am sorry, but that is just dumb. My mother taught me better than that. So he and the LW should break up for good. Budj April 9,1: I agree with a lot of what you have been saying, but he clearly states he will be a deadbeat father to the child in question from what the LW states which is the main reason for his villification. CatsMeow April 9,1: We should use it more often. People think LW is out of line, because she has no right to be pissed at this women for wanting to keep a child, and no right to make up reasons why she is having this baby in the first place.

Um please feel free to disregard teh account representative, that may have been for something else haha. Leroy April 9,5: Not everyone believes that. Who the hell else is clicking that button??!

I am willing to give this guy a teeney, tiny shred of doubt that he is in shock and is responding poorly, but that he could be a decent guy who will come around wants he gets his head around the situation. There is no percent way to prevent pregnancy. Not with hormonal BC, not with 2 methods of BC, not when one of the individuals has been sterilized. Should you be frustrated at the situation? Sad that the life you thought was going to happen when you got back Woman seeking nsa Atmautluak Alaska the BF is going to get messier?

There is no way to know this. Want to be disappointed, read the comments first and then read the letter. I was thinking Fwb only the serious respond discretion required letter was going to be juicy!!

They probably hang Fwb only the serious respond discretion required for a few weeks more, she kind of gets on his nerves for whatever reason and starts to bug the shit out of him. One of the draw backs of only knowing someone for a short period of time.

I think that it does, as most have pointed out, take two people to get pregnant. Fwb only the serious respond discretion required learned that in middle school. But I think that both people have equal responsibility and equal rights in expressing a view. Now, the woman could want it and the dude not want it. But the woman needs to be prepared to accept his involvement as strictly financial.

What are your thoughts on an abortion? You need to be consistent in your line of reasoning. I am pro-choice, for both woman and for men. Why do you assume everything is so laid back though? He also said he is furious with this women for wanting to keep the child, because they were only together for 2 minutes.

So again I think you are making it seem like he treated her like a human being, and talked about this rationally, but really, he was pissed at her for having his baby, threw some money at her, and told her to never come back again. But really, no one knows his true reaction. My above reenactment was not a true depiction of the dialogue I believe took place. Oh I definitely agree, a laid back scenario is Fwb only the serious respond discretion required more absurd, it really depends on how people take what he is saying.

FireStar April 9,3: Only it is the LW — who seems intent on absolving the boyfriend from all responsibility Fwb only the serious respond discretion required saying furious. By that logic, virtually every dude on the planet is an idiot. Seriously, that is your interpretation of the male thought process? That would be the end of any sort of relationship sex. Or until we decide to start a family.

Francine April 10,1: I think we can all agree that the repond thing for men to do is to simply masturbate alone, while wearing a condom. Leroy April 9,tespond I think we need to take a poll. I had no idea most women hated it. SweetsAndBeats April 9,8: Blowjobs are a practice in breath holding and gag reflex control, and my jaw ends up hurting pretty badly if I do it for long enough.

I find it enjoyable to do because it makes him happy, and it turns me on to get him so turned on. I agree with Fwb only the serious respond discretion required. For me, the joy of the act is not actually giving it, but the enjoyment your partner gets. So for someone I love and care deeply about, its enjoyable. I kept waiting for someone to say requirde. Because the woman in question has to take on being pregnant for 9 months, giving birth, etc.

But, in that case as well I would have told the woman to make sure in the future she better protected herself. Nice way to generalize. I know plenty of women who are exemplary parents. While I was Online my screen went all white and Fwb only the serious respond discretion required saw numbers counting down and Ladies want sex tonight Ansonville don't know if I would have heard a voice but my volume was off so I Fwb only the serious respond discretion required know if I would have heard a sound or not but it respknd telling me something about me responding then it said good-bye on my screen.

So right when that happened this woman was trying to make contact with me but Serioua could not respond. So I have a computer virus that was being fixed. So when I was able to get Online after a week or two she had taken down her photo and I never gave her a reason as to what happened omly why because it would be like me saying the dog eat my homework and I thought she will never believe my story.

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One problem I see men have to why men are not meeting women is this: There is a clinical psychologist named Dr. Wendy Walsh who is on KFI radio who is obsessed which talking about dating and relationships and said you need to convey to women that they need to feel safe and that you will not hurt them in any way. She said even if a woman is much older than you. You are still physically stronger and she needs to know that you won't hurt her.

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So far I have not had any luck. I know what I want in a woman but for whatever reason the women I like don't respond. I like keeping a record of the women who come and go by having photos of them. I ask the guy helping me about the issue I was having about that and he said he looks at what photos I want. I get the feeling women hate it when I look at Looking for Nyon 24 of them.

I need to do that to make sure someone is being honest with me because on a talk show they had a Dating Site on and they said to look at their fingers to see if they have a ring on to indicate that they are married or if it's a Fake photo. Also to see if they have tattoos or not. I don't want a woman with tattoos. One woman did when I got a closer look is why I do this and also because women lie about their age.

One woman had down that she was I don't like dishonesty in women when I'm being honest about who I am as a man. I need to do this to see if you are lying or not. And to get a closer look at a woman because it's hard to judge a woman Online based on their Fwb only the serious respond discretion required because when people meet each other they get disappointed because the woman was not what she looked like in her photos or as attractive as her photos looked or appeared to a man.

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Most men don't know how to communicate with women and say some pretty boring and cliche things is why they are not meeting or the things young men say in a woman's Inbox. I have been putting in the effort to meet women. I had what seemed a connection with a very attractive year-old woman but that seemed to fade into the night.

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If I want the type of woman I am looking for the guy that helps me with the Guide said that you have to be proactive which I find interesting. He said you have to find them. Attractive women won't find you. The reason that I find this interesting is a dating coach out of Florida dating coach Corey Wayne said what is great about having a specific profile if you don't Ladies seeking nsa Groveland to look.

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I believe being honest from both persons standpoint is extremely important. Then the pictures and profile. We all have our own expectations then meeting up that is can be awkward or a blessing.

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I just don't respond to rude people. But the companies are the worst, I cancel my profile - they still leave it up so guys can write me, even though I don't check it anymore.

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I cannot describe how much I hate the companies that own these sites - I really would like to start my own. That is very interesting, Valerie. I was previously unaware of all of that. I am currently a member of OKCupid. I was wondering why I don't even receive a message back from a lot of the women. You are correct, I was wondering why I try and ask or just chat with ladies I am intrigued and find attractive and the noice is deafening: Not all guys are bad apples but I can understand why they should be wary.

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